As a red-blooded American, I'll offer a counter-argument.
A secessionist / separatist rebellion or insurrection is the only course of action freedom loving Americans would be willing to attempt (despite almost guaranteed failure in the long run.)
A militia in America can still be sued and it's trade can be restricted. They might try to setup their own currency, and while I don't know of any laws against it, the federal gov't has a precedent of eliminating all homegrown fiat currencies (there are other problems with digital currencies). Because a militia is still technically part of the United States, its legal disputes have to be done in regular courts (they can't setup their own courts system like the actual US military).
But more importantly, the freedom loving, do-it-yourself, pioneering American spirit is almost entirely gone now. Any sort of community requires something akin to a shared goal. Americans are divided in an incredible number of ways. Most can't get along at their day jobs, now add the pressure that their job would actually need to be useful! This style of living would also require people who believe they are highly educated to actually learn valuable skills from almost nothing. To them, that kind of work (AKA honest work) would be beneath them. On top of that, most couldn't even bother trying to live without interfacing with the digital world. To a normal American, avoiding nightly news or social media for longer than a week is far too dangerous.
Just as it took decades of terrible living conditions for post-WW1 Germans to unite under one practical (albeit wrong) movement, it will take the living conditions of average Americans to be terrible for at least one more generation for them to attempt to unite and overthrow or separate from the United States. Offer the average American the choice of living in a psuedo-isolationist paramilitary commune or a glorious rebellion / insurrection against the evil federal gov't, they'd choose rebellion almost everytime.
I love your reply Charles! I think those are all valid points. I feel like there is an underlying unrest that is waiting to burst out in some crazy fashion already, so if this could be advertised right, many would sign up without feeling like they need to secede or rebel. The state would basically have to say, "Screw the establishment, come make our state thrive". If even 4% of the population was interested, you'd have a big swing, and the results from there would have to speak for themselves.
Sorry, not trying to be too much of a downer here.
I just haven't met many Americans who really are willing to give up comfort for freedom. Therefore, a rebellion / insurrection requires Americans to be severely lacking in comfort to start with.
I don't usually like giving ways of thinking names but this sounds to me like a form of socialism only it's reduced to a much smaller scale. would it work? in my opinion, unless most of the members of the militia where Christians I don't think so. I strongly believe that the reason why most of the world operates under capitalism and democracy is not only down the deception and power of our overlords but to the way humans are.
Compared to free society the military is a socialist system already, and it works thanks to endless federal funding as you'd expect from a socialist system. I just created a new post as a follow up, I'm curious if it answers any of your concerns. What I'll say here is that "identity" is overrated today, I don't think people are nearly as attached to the status quo as we think, there just isn't a clear alternative. The Internet was the first major alternative during our lifetimes, and the entire Millennial generation flocked to it, destroying many traditional systems that people thought would be around forever. Within 15 years everything has changed.
An interesting starting point for a debate but as we can't I will have to comment in writing with no deep thinking but with some reading behind me and gut instinct. I think using terms like 'communist', 'socialist' and 'citizen' fall into their trap. Don't forget they control/own the media and large political parties. Predicting the collapse of the USA also suits them fine. Why is it so popular? It must be a great place to live if the people were not abused by globalists who have set up/infiltrated its financial system and government.
Living under militias sounds horrific. Alison McDowell has spoken of the communitarian agenda that is being rolled out right now, with the COVID-19 deception as the trigger.
Perhaps you're right. I'm very familiar with Alison McDowell and her work. I strongly oppose the Communitarian agenda and I've written about that in my books. That's what I think it interesting about this alternative, since it's not actually Communitarian, it's just a program you could leave if you wanted to. A temporary service of a few years and then you're back in society if you don't like it. There is a massive push toward Smart Cities and I just published a follow up post I think you should check out.
As a red-blooded American, I'll offer a counter-argument.
A secessionist / separatist rebellion or insurrection is the only course of action freedom loving Americans would be willing to attempt (despite almost guaranteed failure in the long run.)
A militia in America can still be sued and it's trade can be restricted. They might try to setup their own currency, and while I don't know of any laws against it, the federal gov't has a precedent of eliminating all homegrown fiat currencies (there are other problems with digital currencies). Because a militia is still technically part of the United States, its legal disputes have to be done in regular courts (they can't setup their own courts system like the actual US military).
But more importantly, the freedom loving, do-it-yourself, pioneering American spirit is almost entirely gone now. Any sort of community requires something akin to a shared goal. Americans are divided in an incredible number of ways. Most can't get along at their day jobs, now add the pressure that their job would actually need to be useful! This style of living would also require people who believe they are highly educated to actually learn valuable skills from almost nothing. To them, that kind of work (AKA honest work) would be beneath them. On top of that, most couldn't even bother trying to live without interfacing with the digital world. To a normal American, avoiding nightly news or social media for longer than a week is far too dangerous.
Just as it took decades of terrible living conditions for post-WW1 Germans to unite under one practical (albeit wrong) movement, it will take the living conditions of average Americans to be terrible for at least one more generation for them to attempt to unite and overthrow or separate from the United States. Offer the average American the choice of living in a psuedo-isolationist paramilitary commune or a glorious rebellion / insurrection against the evil federal gov't, they'd choose rebellion almost everytime.
I love your reply Charles! I think those are all valid points. I feel like there is an underlying unrest that is waiting to burst out in some crazy fashion already, so if this could be advertised right, many would sign up without feeling like they need to secede or rebel. The state would basically have to say, "Screw the establishment, come make our state thrive". If even 4% of the population was interested, you'd have a big swing, and the results from there would have to speak for themselves.
Sorry, not trying to be too much of a downer here.
I just haven't met many Americans who really are willing to give up comfort for freedom. Therefore, a rebellion / insurrection requires Americans to be severely lacking in comfort to start with.
I don't usually like giving ways of thinking names but this sounds to me like a form of socialism only it's reduced to a much smaller scale. would it work? in my opinion, unless most of the members of the militia where Christians I don't think so. I strongly believe that the reason why most of the world operates under capitalism and democracy is not only down the deception and power of our overlords but to the way humans are.
Compared to free society the military is a socialist system already, and it works thanks to endless federal funding as you'd expect from a socialist system. I just created a new post as a follow up, I'm curious if it answers any of your concerns. What I'll say here is that "identity" is overrated today, I don't think people are nearly as attached to the status quo as we think, there just isn't a clear alternative. The Internet was the first major alternative during our lifetimes, and the entire Millennial generation flocked to it, destroying many traditional systems that people thought would be around forever. Within 15 years everything has changed.
An interesting starting point for a debate but as we can't I will have to comment in writing with no deep thinking but with some reading behind me and gut instinct. I think using terms like 'communist', 'socialist' and 'citizen' fall into their trap. Don't forget they control/own the media and large political parties. Predicting the collapse of the USA also suits them fine. Why is it so popular? It must be a great place to live if the people were not abused by globalists who have set up/infiltrated its financial system and government.
Living under militias sounds horrific. Alison McDowell has spoken of the communitarian agenda that is being rolled out right now, with the COVID-19 deception as the trigger.
Perhaps you're right. I'm very familiar with Alison McDowell and her work. I strongly oppose the Communitarian agenda and I've written about that in my books. That's what I think it interesting about this alternative, since it's not actually Communitarian, it's just a program you could leave if you wanted to. A temporary service of a few years and then you're back in society if you don't like it. There is a massive push toward Smart Cities and I just published a follow up post I think you should check out.