Very well written, thank you. It still begs the question about the marriage supper, timing and there is then no room for people to become born again after ‘the church’ is killed in the last days?
Death will come quickly to the church globally when the anti-Christ is removed and they will escape Gods wrath and outpouring as they won’t be there? I do however struggle to understand how entire Christian families with their young children will be able to stand strong in this. It has happened for 100’s of years but seems to me this will be done on a massive, global scale never seen before.
My other question is first the restrainer will be removed (generally understood to be the Holy Spirit) before the anti christ is revealed. Is the restrainer then perhaps the spirit filled body of the church that is removed?
Just to add more to the prophetic nature of the Seven Letters, we can look back now in hindsight and see the time periods in the Church Age each letter approximately commences. Ephesus (95AD), Smyrna (100AD), Pergamum (312AD), Thyatira (650AD), Sardis (1500AD), Philadelphia (1700AD) and Laodicea (1850AD). These letters, particularly Laodicea, were not meant to be understood by first century believers, but by us in this age. Why would Laodicea be the only letter with an open invitation from Jesus to let Him in? (Rev 3:20) Because it is the end of the Church Age, the dispensational period of the overcomer between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks, and our gracious Father is desperate for all to come to Jesus as the end is nigh.
You miss the entire prophetic purpose of Revelation (Rev 1:3). The seven letters are prophesies of the Church Age. We are now in Laodicea, which by being 7th, will complete the Church Age. What comes after the Church Age? Rev 4 and 5, the Throne Room of the Saints. From Chapter 6 we see the commencement of the 70th week of Daniel 9, and this is for Israel, and the remnant of repentant believers left behind post-rapture clothed in sackcloth (Rev 11). Why is the Church (the overcomers of Ch 2&3, either Gentiles OR Jews) never mentioned after Chapter 3? Because it is GONE!
I thank you for your investigative article, but the Spirit tells me you may have missed the mark. I respectfully ask you to seriously pray about this. Our job is to prepare believers using the whole counsel of YAH who has laid out by grace in Revelation all we need to know about the redemption of man. The Spirit teaches, the flesh is no help at all (John 6:63).
Terry, I really appreciate your writing and your thoughts, and I agree with you very frequently. One sticking point for me is claiming that the Thessalonians passage is clearly the day of the Lord. The Bible is pretty good about saying the day of the Lord, when it means the day of the Lord, and the actual phrase, the day of the Lord, is not in the Thessalonians passage. So I think your proposition is not proved. I am open to your response.
"The rapture was made up to pacify Christians." - not my words. Sure nails the observable reality of many doing nothing to stop stuff getting worse. Good luck with that I guess. Ultimately we'll see. Faith of love and action seems like a good concept to me.
You make some good points here. You also make some strange ones, imho.
I only have time to send one query for now...
Where does the Bible say every single Christian will have died before Christ returns? Surely 1 Thess. 4:15-17 alone is compelling evidence that you are wrong here?
Excellent, Thank you!!
Very well written, thank you. It still begs the question about the marriage supper, timing and there is then no room for people to become born again after ‘the church’ is killed in the last days?
Death will come quickly to the church globally when the anti-Christ is removed and they will escape Gods wrath and outpouring as they won’t be there? I do however struggle to understand how entire Christian families with their young children will be able to stand strong in this. It has happened for 100’s of years but seems to me this will be done on a massive, global scale never seen before.
My other question is first the restrainer will be removed (generally understood to be the Holy Spirit) before the anti christ is revealed. Is the restrainer then perhaps the spirit filled body of the church that is removed?
Just to add more to the prophetic nature of the Seven Letters, we can look back now in hindsight and see the time periods in the Church Age each letter approximately commences. Ephesus (95AD), Smyrna (100AD), Pergamum (312AD), Thyatira (650AD), Sardis (1500AD), Philadelphia (1700AD) and Laodicea (1850AD). These letters, particularly Laodicea, were not meant to be understood by first century believers, but by us in this age. Why would Laodicea be the only letter with an open invitation from Jesus to let Him in? (Rev 3:20) Because it is the end of the Church Age, the dispensational period of the overcomer between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks, and our gracious Father is desperate for all to come to Jesus as the end is nigh.
You miss the entire prophetic purpose of Revelation (Rev 1:3). The seven letters are prophesies of the Church Age. We are now in Laodicea, which by being 7th, will complete the Church Age. What comes after the Church Age? Rev 4 and 5, the Throne Room of the Saints. From Chapter 6 we see the commencement of the 70th week of Daniel 9, and this is for Israel, and the remnant of repentant believers left behind post-rapture clothed in sackcloth (Rev 11). Why is the Church (the overcomers of Ch 2&3, either Gentiles OR Jews) never mentioned after Chapter 3? Because it is GONE!
I thank you for your investigative article, but the Spirit tells me you may have missed the mark. I respectfully ask you to seriously pray about this. Our job is to prepare believers using the whole counsel of YAH who has laid out by grace in Revelation all we need to know about the redemption of man. The Spirit teaches, the flesh is no help at all (John 6:63).
Terry, I really appreciate your writing and your thoughts, and I agree with you very frequently. One sticking point for me is claiming that the Thessalonians passage is clearly the day of the Lord. The Bible is pretty good about saying the day of the Lord, when it means the day of the Lord, and the actual phrase, the day of the Lord, is not in the Thessalonians passage. So I think your proposition is not proved. I am open to your response.
"The rapture was made up to pacify Christians." - not my words. Sure nails the observable reality of many doing nothing to stop stuff getting worse. Good luck with that I guess. Ultimately we'll see. Faith of love and action seems like a good concept to me.
You make some good points here. You also make some strange ones, imho.
I only have time to send one query for now...
Where does the Bible say every single Christian will have died before Christ returns? Surely 1 Thess. 4:15-17 alone is compelling evidence that you are wrong here?